DexYP/Thryv (Dex Media) and Hibu WebsitesPosted: December 12, 2013
Companies like DexYP/Thryv (formerly Dex Media, SuperMedia and SuperPages), Hibu (formerly Yellowbook), Yext and Yodle offer online marketing services such as business listings and directories, pay-per-click advertising, search engine optimization, and websites. If set up properly, these online marketing methods can work in getting your business noticed. The problem that most business owners I’ve talked to who have dealt with these companies have found (and also based on many online complaints) is not the services they offer but the way these services are carried out.
DISCLAIMER: This blog is based on discussions I’ve had with dozens of Dex Media/ DexYP/ Thryv customers throughout the years, and the information herein is based on their personal experiences.
Too Many Cooks in the Kitchen
These are large, national and international companies, many of which utilize subcontractors and/or outsource their work overseas. Since different departments of these companies are located in different parts of the country and world, communication between departments, as well as between the company and their customers, is subpar. So if you have a technical question, your salesperson will tell you to call a different number. Billing question? Another number. Or you get transferred to 6 different people before you get a resolution, if that happens at all. Be prepared to set aside large chunks of time (and Rolaids) when dealing with these companies. Dex customers I’ve talked to have told me that once they signed their contract, they were unable to get a hold of their salesperson again, but the salesperson (or their replacement) would magically reappear two months before the contract was due to renew.
These companies employ commissioned salespeople. In general, they are polite, friendly, knowledgeable, and will promise you the world. Just sign here. Now. They may neglect to mention little details like the fact that you’ll be locked in to a contract that you’ll need to cancel in writing at least 30 days prior. They may forget to tell you that if you transfer your domain name to them (which is not necessary, by the way, and is a major red flag – read my blog about domain theft here), they will legally own that domain (even though they may tell you you’ll be the owner) and make it extremely difficult for you to get it back (if you get it back at all). And good luck getting a copy of the contract you signed (which is required by law, by the way), since it’s signed digitally on the salesperson’s computer while he or she is in your office. Every Dex Media/DexYP customer I’ve spoken to has told me they were never given a copy of their contract, and several of them made multiple requests. Any reputable company should be eager to give you a copy of the contract you signed, since they have nothing to hide.
That “free” website they built for you is not truly free. If it’s part of a bundle that includes online listings and phone book ads, you’re paying for it one way or another. If your monthly fee is $300, then $50 to $100 could be going to your website. You may think $50 a month is not much for a website, but $600 a year is too much for a template website that you’re only “renting”. The cost of having a website should involve only the domain name and web hosting; more than that and you’re throwing your money away.
Have you seen your new Dex Media or Hibu website? Doesn’t it look remarkably like every other Dex Media/Hibu website you’ve seen? Take a look at other Dex Media/Hibu websites by searching for them in Google using these search terms:
– For YellowBook sites, Google the following: Yellow Book USA, Inc. All Rights Reserved
– For Hibu sites, Google the following: “hibu USA, Inc. All Rights Reserved” (in quotes)
– For SuperMedia sites, Google the following: Powered by SuperMedia, LLC
Websites are secondary to these companies. They make their revenue from other forms of advertising, and they throw in a website to make you feel like you’re getting a bargain. But their websites are nothing more than mass produced templates, with stock photos and clip art that is used for every other company in your industry. The coding does not adhere to proper standards, which means your site could be ignored by search engines. You cannot expand or customize the site without paying a higher monthly fee. The site looks like every other generic template site out there. But the most important thing to remember is that once you stop paying, they can remove your site and keep your domain name (which they legally own, even though they may tell you they don’t).
The bulk of what you’ll be paying these companies will be for Pay-Per-Click (often they will call it something else, a nicer sounding euphemism like “Local Search Engine Click Marketing”), which is expensive. Pay-Per-Click is a big business, and the only companies making money on it are the companies selling it. These companies push Pay-Per-Click not only because it makes them a lot of money, but because they know that their websites have difficulty ranking in search engines organically (i.e. without paid ads). If you really want to do Pay-Per-Click, you can do it yourself through Google and cut out the middleman.
If you want a good quality website, hire a web design firm, one that focuses first and foremost on building websites. A small company is often a better fit for a small businesses, as they understand the needs of small businesses and you’ll usually be talking to the same person every time. Make sure they have their own website, with samples of work they have done. Be sure to visit the sites they claim to have designed, and check at the bottom of the page for a link back to their own site or something that says they designed it. If you decide to go with this company, read over the contract carefully and make sure you are not locked into a monthly or annual subscription. The design of your website should be a one-time fee, or may be paid over a series of installments.